Thanks for your description TJ Lo!
One small option I like from jobbers is that if we are talking about a dominant squash match, then I like when the Jobber is completely shut down somewhere earlier in the match with a stiff power move (like a sudden, short arm clothesline) as an answer to their early resistance.
Then from there, I do like to “have my way“ with the put in his place, intimidated opponent who then is active in participating in the moves and holds applied in order to sell them. There may be a little resistance here and there or a “brief comeback” but the dominance is established, so the rest of the match is a total squash.
Again don’t want somebody that is limp and lifeless but a willing recipient to the moves and taking an active part of the action. :-)
A good jobber simply needs to make the heel look and feel good. That's all he needs to do. And if he has a good time himself doing that, then you have the elements of a great match. Nothing else required
Okay, another jobber question for everyone who is familiar with this realm. What are the three most important elements of a jobber? Those three things you look for whether you're watching on the web or viewing a match.
Of course you're welcome to use people that fit. I just want everybody to go in detail with the answer a bit so everybody can get the full visual of what you're seeing.
1. From the moment he climbs through the ropes to await the arrival of his opponent, a jobber should come across as a wannabe who is kind of naive, is in way over his head and knows it. He should ooze anxiety and even outright fear as he paces nervously in his corner and tugs on the ropes.
2. Fully agree with Tj Lo that he should absorb as much punishment as possible and mount little in the way of offense. I much prefer completely one-sided squashes from the opening bell, but if the heel yanks up the jobber by the hair at the count of two, I like to see the jobber throw a couple of weak punches to his tormentor's midsection to show he has at least a little spunk left in him. Whereupon the enraged heel should dial up the punishment.
3. As a cursory reading of my profile will readily reveal, the right gear is absolutely essential. A cheesy-looking ring jacket (NO capes or masks), classic high-waisted trunks and midcalf-high boots made of soft leather, kneepads and wristbands or tape, ideally all gear and footwear in pristine white.
1. Take as much punishment as possible. I understand if you've been taking a lot of punishment, but if the match is just starting you shouldn't be tapping out after a few seconds. If a heel/jobber match up is what you wanted, take the most out of your role. Most heels ramp up the pressure as time goes on, if they're going all out from the get, that is another story.
2. Fight back/struggle, cautiously. I personally don't like when jobbers take over the match unless it's in the beginning when the heel is letting them get whatever moves off that they can. Furthermore, unless it is a squash match, there's no reason you should be just lying there like a body bag, especially early to mid match. Give the heel something to work for, make them use their strength and establish their dominance.
3. Recognizing defeat. There's a certain point in heel/jobber matches when all hope is lost for the jobber. Most of the time that point is closer to the end of the match because of post mactch humiliation or stakes that were wagered and so forth.
So, at this point, it's ok to not put up as much as a fight anymore and just take whatever you have coming in those last few moments of the match, and prepare for whatever postmatch activity you may or may not have wanted.
I think the elements of a jobber change as the match goes on.
Heel-eo-trope (6)
19/5/2022 22:52Very well said white boots. :)
Heel-eo-trope (6)
18/5/2022 05:02Thanks for your description TJ Lo!
One small option I like from jobbers is that if we are talking about a dominant squash match, then I like when the Jobber is completely shut down somewhere earlier in the match with a stiff power move (like a sudden, short arm clothesline) as an answer to their early resistance.
Then from there, I do like to “have my way“ with the put in his place, intimidated opponent who then is active in participating in the moves and holds applied in order to sell them. There may be a little resistance here and there or a “brief comeback” but the dominance is established, so the rest of the match is a total squash.
Again don’t want somebody that is limp and lifeless but a willing recipient to the moves and taking an active part of the action. :-)
WrestleVA21 (1)
20/5/2022 21:31(C'est une réponse)
You are kind of heel I enjoy wrestling
TakeThePunchesAI (13)
18/5/2022 05:05(C'est une réponse)
Lol, well we definitely know what you are all about.
expat (6 )
17/5/2022 08:50A good jobber simply needs to make the heel look and feel good. That's all he needs to do. And if he has a good time himself doing that, then you have the elements of a great match. Nothing else required
BobsFolly (0)
16/5/2022 18:25Since I declare as a jobber, I'm interested in this as well. My inclination is to fight back and make the heel work for his/her prize.
TakeThePunchesAI (13)
16/5/2022 17:58Okay, another jobber question for everyone who is familiar with this realm. What are the three most important elements of a jobber? Those three things you look for whether you're watching on the web or viewing a match.
Of course you're welcome to use people that fit. I just want everybody to go in detail with the answer a bit so everybody can get the full visual of what you're seeing.
whiteboots (7)
18/5/2022 15:17(C'est une réponse)
1. From the moment he climbs through the ropes to await the arrival of his opponent, a jobber should come across as a wannabe who is kind of naive, is in way over his head and knows it. He should ooze anxiety and even outright fear as he paces nervously in his corner and tugs on the ropes.
2. Fully agree with Tj Lo that he should absorb as much punishment as possible and mount little in the way of offense. I much prefer completely one-sided squashes from the opening bell, but if the heel yanks up the jobber by the hair at the count of two, I like to see the jobber throw a couple of weak punches to his tormentor's midsection to show he has at least a little spunk left in him. Whereupon the enraged heel should dial up the punishment.
3. As a cursory reading of my profile will readily reveal, the right gear is absolutely essential. A cheesy-looking ring jacket (NO capes or masks), classic high-waisted trunks and midcalf-high boots made of soft leather, kneepads and wristbands or tape, ideally all gear and footwear in pristine white.
Tj Lo (23)
18/5/2022 00:31(C'est une réponse)
1. Take as much punishment as possible. I understand if you've been taking a lot of punishment, but if the match is just starting you shouldn't be tapping out after a few seconds. If a heel/jobber match up is what you wanted, take the most out of your role. Most heels ramp up the pressure as time goes on, if they're going all out from the get, that is another story.
2. Fight back/struggle, cautiously. I personally don't like when jobbers take over the match unless it's in the beginning when the heel is letting them get whatever moves off that they can. Furthermore, unless it is a squash match, there's no reason you should be just lying there like a body bag, especially early to mid match. Give the heel something to work for, make them use their strength and establish their dominance.
3. Recognizing defeat. There's a certain point in heel/jobber matches when all hope is lost for the jobber. Most of the time that point is closer to the end of the match because of post mactch humiliation or stakes that were wagered and so forth.
So, at this point, it's ok to not put up as much as a fight anymore and just take whatever you have coming in those last few moments of the match, and prepare for whatever postmatch activity you may or may not have wanted.
I think the elements of a jobber change as the match goes on.
Slams22 (5)
19/5/2022 04:31(C'est une réponse)
Good stuff
BobsFolly (0)
18/5/2022 04:39(C'est une réponse)
Thank you. That gives me an approach for the heel/jobber match I'm trying to arrange.
TakeThePunchesAI (13)
18/5/2022 00:47(C'est une réponse)
I like this explanation man, thanks for sharing.